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walking_dude
10-08 04:57 PM
gjoe/and others,
No one's trying to cut the line here. If there's any, it's purely procedural and has nothing to do with 'Ending Retrogression'. With or without retrogression someone might get an RFE, get stuck in namecheck etc. Ending retrogression provides earlier PDs better chances of getting GC faster (if dates are 'C' you get it the month you clear RFE, Name check etc.)
Just posting here isn't helping you cause. Instead you guys can get together and start sending flowers to USCIS director requesting him to publish the complete list of GC applications approved every year. It's the first step in enforcing FIFO. Right now there is no such list and no way of knowing who got their GC out of turn. And while you guys are at it also send some flowers to FBI to clear Namechecks FIFO, to DOL to approve PERM petitions FIFO etc.
Go spend those $50 at Flowers.com folks. Start writing to Senators, collect money, do the lobbying etc. Who's stopping you?
Or do you want logiclife, pappu and rest of the IV core to do it PRO BONO for you?
No one's trying to cut the line here. If there's any, it's purely procedural and has nothing to do with 'Ending Retrogression'. With or without retrogression someone might get an RFE, get stuck in namecheck etc. Ending retrogression provides earlier PDs better chances of getting GC faster (if dates are 'C' you get it the month you clear RFE, Name check etc.)
Just posting here isn't helping you cause. Instead you guys can get together and start sending flowers to USCIS director requesting him to publish the complete list of GC applications approved every year. It's the first step in enforcing FIFO. Right now there is no such list and no way of knowing who got their GC out of turn. And while you guys are at it also send some flowers to FBI to clear Namechecks FIFO, to DOL to approve PERM petitions FIFO etc.
Go spend those $50 at Flowers.com folks. Start writing to Senators, collect money, do the lobbying etc. Who's stopping you?
Or do you want logiclife, pappu and rest of the IV core to do it PRO BONO for you?
jnraajan
02-08 06:58 PM
Pappu
The link on your message to donate seems to be broken. can you check into it, or can I just donate to IV through Paypal.
The link on your message to donate seems to be broken. can you check into it, or can I just donate to IV through Paypal.
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dontcareanymore
07-28 12:48 AM
1) First of all this is not the response to just the quoted post, but many on the same lines, especially from delax and others.
2)I believe that that whole process is so screwed up that it is never fair and never will be. Irrespective of what Eb3s hope for and try , Eb2 folks are going to get their GCs and Eb3s will have to wait until stars align for them.
3) I don't really care one way or other , because what you wish,hope or try to do will have no bearing on the outcome.
<Those who think 2 year EADs are because of your letters , stay in the dreamland - ignorance is bliss >
4) I am really happy for Eb2 folks (No way jealous) , just pissed by some attitude here.
Now that I have the disclaimers out of the way, Here is what I have to say:
Why the heck you never made the argument that "law is law" and "There is no compassion" before law crap when you were retrogressed ?
What happened to what law says , when attempts were made to grab visas from ROW with the same "It is not fair" argument ?
What is the yardstick for EB2 ? It is just what your employer says it is. I know so many in body shops with Eb2 apps while others languish in Eb3 queue.
You can't extend the logic to all EB1 categories. At least in some of the EB categories one has to have published research work in peer reviewed journals.
Will give you an example :
Know some one who came here as postdoc with PHD in life sciences (zoology) and self filed for GC EB1and now runs an Indian grocery just after being in job for less than a year. How do you justify that GC is in the interest of US than a person who is working in a company for 10 years ?
It is true that the original number is broken up equally among all categories but the INA clearly states that if the demand within a category is not sufficient to use up all the visas in that category then the excess should be made available without any regard to country limit in that category. Here's a fact from the July bulletin - not an opinion:
There have been questions raised regarding the way numbers have been provided to the China and India in the Employment Second preference categories beginning in April. Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that if total demand for visas in an Employment preference category is insufficient to use all available visa numbers in that category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limit. (For example: If the second preference annual limit were 40,000, number use by “All Other Countries” were estimated to be only 25,000, and the China/India combined number use based on their per-country limits were 6,000, then there would be 9,000 numbers unused. Those 9,000 numbers could then be made available to China and India applicants without regard to their per-country limits.)
I dont buy the argument that length of wait (as implied in the letter) should determine eligibility for approval disregarding the clear categorization established by law AFTER the initial handout is made on an equal basis. I have always maintained that any logic used to justify shifting visas between EB2 and EB3 purely based on the length of wait can also easily be used between EB2 and EB1. The fact that EB1 has never retrogressed does not matter. Unfortunately LAW is an absolute entity - there is no compassionate interpretation in civil and common law.
If a EB3-2002 is approved before EB2-2004 purely based on length of wait and ignoring the categorization after the initial handout then the same logic or rationale can be used to approve EB2-2004 before EB1-2007 by 'holding back' the visa from the EB1 candidate and giving it to EB2.
I dont think either of us is interested in going down the path of EB2 versus EB3 but to the extent this letter implies/attempts to do that, it is detrimental to the functioning of this group. Cheers
2)I believe that that whole process is so screwed up that it is never fair and never will be. Irrespective of what Eb3s hope for and try , Eb2 folks are going to get their GCs and Eb3s will have to wait until stars align for them.
3) I don't really care one way or other , because what you wish,hope or try to do will have no bearing on the outcome.
<Those who think 2 year EADs are because of your letters , stay in the dreamland - ignorance is bliss >
4) I am really happy for Eb2 folks (No way jealous) , just pissed by some attitude here.
Now that I have the disclaimers out of the way, Here is what I have to say:
Why the heck you never made the argument that "law is law" and "There is no compassion" before law crap when you were retrogressed ?
What happened to what law says , when attempts were made to grab visas from ROW with the same "It is not fair" argument ?
What is the yardstick for EB2 ? It is just what your employer says it is. I know so many in body shops with Eb2 apps while others languish in Eb3 queue.
You can't extend the logic to all EB1 categories. At least in some of the EB categories one has to have published research work in peer reviewed journals.
Will give you an example :
Know some one who came here as postdoc with PHD in life sciences (zoology) and self filed for GC EB1and now runs an Indian grocery just after being in job for less than a year. How do you justify that GC is in the interest of US than a person who is working in a company for 10 years ?
It is true that the original number is broken up equally among all categories but the INA clearly states that if the demand within a category is not sufficient to use up all the visas in that category then the excess should be made available without any regard to country limit in that category. Here's a fact from the July bulletin - not an opinion:
There have been questions raised regarding the way numbers have been provided to the China and India in the Employment Second preference categories beginning in April. Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that if total demand for visas in an Employment preference category is insufficient to use all available visa numbers in that category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limit. (For example: If the second preference annual limit were 40,000, number use by “All Other Countries” were estimated to be only 25,000, and the China/India combined number use based on their per-country limits were 6,000, then there would be 9,000 numbers unused. Those 9,000 numbers could then be made available to China and India applicants without regard to their per-country limits.)
I dont buy the argument that length of wait (as implied in the letter) should determine eligibility for approval disregarding the clear categorization established by law AFTER the initial handout is made on an equal basis. I have always maintained that any logic used to justify shifting visas between EB2 and EB3 purely based on the length of wait can also easily be used between EB2 and EB1. The fact that EB1 has never retrogressed does not matter. Unfortunately LAW is an absolute entity - there is no compassionate interpretation in civil and common law.
If a EB3-2002 is approved before EB2-2004 purely based on length of wait and ignoring the categorization after the initial handout then the same logic or rationale can be used to approve EB2-2004 before EB1-2007 by 'holding back' the visa from the EB1 candidate and giving it to EB2.
I dont think either of us is interested in going down the path of EB2 versus EB3 but to the extent this letter implies/attempts to do that, it is detrimental to the functioning of this group. Cheers
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PrashantChandran1978
09-19 02:16 PM
Please update me when ur cheques got encashed and when got receipt notice, my application is also received by k.lawson (NSC on Aug 6 07/EB3)
pappu
03-22 10:23 AM
I and my wife have been SCREAMING, FIGHTING for over four years now. We are now so frustrated that we have EVEN DISCUSSED THINGS LIKE TAKING UP OUR LIVES !!! I really mean it. For both of us, our career is the single most important thing.
We had decided to wait for our next step in life like having a kid or putting in a big investment till we both at least have a job. Inspite of both of us having Masters degress from US universities, we are both suffering - me languishing in a filthy job and my wife on H4 - for the past 5 years !!! She is now more than 35 making it difficult to have kids etc...
I don't have the choice of going back to my home country due to many other personal reasons. I just don't know what to do... I am losing my sanity.
are you interested in talking to a reporter?
let us know asap. we have a reporter looking to do a story on H4 people and how it affects families. If you/anyone else is interested, post your story in 'tell us your story thread' and update your profile with name email and phone number so that we can contact you.
We had decided to wait for our next step in life like having a kid or putting in a big investment till we both at least have a job. Inspite of both of us having Masters degress from US universities, we are both suffering - me languishing in a filthy job and my wife on H4 - for the past 5 years !!! She is now more than 35 making it difficult to have kids etc...
I don't have the choice of going back to my home country due to many other personal reasons. I just don't know what to do... I am losing my sanity.
are you interested in talking to a reporter?
let us know asap. we have a reporter looking to do a story on H4 people and how it affects families. If you/anyone else is interested, post your story in 'tell us your story thread' and update your profile with name email and phone number so that we can contact you.
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India_USA
07-20 10:32 AM
I would ask the same question...
If EB3 and EB2 are equal( unbiased) in eyes of IV, then why sanhari's suggestion is not welcome?
EB2-EB3 discussion is not just unbiased in the eyes of IV, it makes no sense in the real world when it comes to finding solutions to the problem of backlogs. It only exists in this forum.
If EB3 and EB2 are equal( unbiased) in eyes of IV, then why sanhari's suggestion is not welcome?
EB2-EB3 discussion is not just unbiased in the eyes of IV, it makes no sense in the real world when it comes to finding solutions to the problem of backlogs. It only exists in this forum.
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bharol
08-25 09:38 PM
8/19/2008(Monday) 7 AM: Got "Welcoming the new Permanent resident.." email, saying 485 was approved on 8/18/2008.
8/19/2008(Monday) 9 PM: Got "Card production Ordered" Email.
8/22/2008(Friday) 1 PM: Got "Approval Notice Sent" Email.
8/23/2008(Saturday) : Got Physical Welcome notice on I797 form, mailed by USCIS on 8/18/2008
8/25/2008(Monday): Got PHYSICAL CARDS in mail. :)
May everybody get their approvals ASAP.
Good luck.
8/19/2008(Monday) 9 PM: Got "Card production Ordered" Email.
8/22/2008(Friday) 1 PM: Got "Approval Notice Sent" Email.
8/23/2008(Saturday) : Got Physical Welcome notice on I797 form, mailed by USCIS on 8/18/2008
8/25/2008(Monday): Got PHYSICAL CARDS in mail. :)
May everybody get their approvals ASAP.
Good luck.
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sankap
07-10 01:16 AM
Could you point to a USCIS/IRS resource for this info?
QUOTE=number30;486999]Problem with that argument once you own more than 5% of the company you will have file as investor. [/QUOTE]
QUOTE=number30;486999]Problem with that argument once you own more than 5% of the company you will have file as investor. [/QUOTE]
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crystal
07-11 10:06 AM
Nice to see your post Raju .We must thank the reporter
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/ucf/orl-visas1107jul11,0,5061439.story
I am going to call the reporter and thank him again.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/ucf/orl-visas1107jul11,0,5061439.story
I am going to call the reporter and thank him again.
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pcs
06-25 10:44 PM
Look at this ad...
This guy is a bigtime white racist... he does not mind only Canadian TN VISA guys but not the Mexicans...
Equal opportunity Emp will call for either do not sponsor ANY VISA catagory for people present in US or NO VISA at all... BUT this guys is OK with VISA for Canadian but No Mexican.... forget about H1-B etc... OPT
PROCESS ENGINEER / CHEMICAL ENGINEER - Petrochemical / Refining / Oil and Gas job in Martinez, CA: Engineering and Engineering careers - Yahoo HotJobs (http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/jobsearch/job_detail.html?job_id=JL84XW2ILFG&source=jobalert)
I do not need any job but I am going to write to the VP of this company and demand explanation to prove why he be not considered a racist or at least a NON Equal Opportunity Employer
This guy is a bigtime white racist... he does not mind only Canadian TN VISA guys but not the Mexicans...
Equal opportunity Emp will call for either do not sponsor ANY VISA catagory for people present in US or NO VISA at all... BUT this guys is OK with VISA for Canadian but No Mexican.... forget about H1-B etc... OPT
PROCESS ENGINEER / CHEMICAL ENGINEER - Petrochemical / Refining / Oil and Gas job in Martinez, CA: Engineering and Engineering careers - Yahoo HotJobs (http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/jobsearch/job_detail.html?job_id=JL84XW2ILFG&source=jobalert)
I do not need any job but I am going to write to the VP of this company and demand explanation to prove why he be not considered a racist or at least a NON Equal Opportunity Employer
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whyregisteration
12-13 02:54 PM
one can call if FP notice has not got yet. But nothing useful for me (July 3rd filler), recently I received one mail: '.. still within our processing time ...', still no FP:eek:
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anzerraja
07-19 09:45 PM
Thanks !
Please post your pledge amount. Easier for us to keep track of the total amount.
Count me in...
Please post your pledge amount. Easier for us to keep track of the total amount.
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nefrateedi
08-01 06:52 PM
My I140 was approved at California center and my 485 is sent to Nebraska on june 22. Is that a problem?
You are fine. The direct filing update is only as of July 30.
You are fine. The direct filing update is only as of July 30.
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anzerraja
07-20 12:43 AM
ThinkTwice, tommorow we should get this done.
I know TOGETHER WE CAN GET IT DONE BY TOMMOROW.
The man has put his Job, Personal Life, Money, Time and his soul into this effort.
We cannot give him his time but atleast we can reimburse him financially.
That is the least we can do.
We should target to get 50 contributors tomorrow.
TT.
I know TOGETHER WE CAN GET IT DONE BY TOMMOROW.
The man has put his Job, Personal Life, Money, Time and his soul into this effort.
We cannot give him his time but atleast we can reimburse him financially.
That is the least we can do.
We should target to get 50 contributors tomorrow.
TT.
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bkam
06-21 10:47 PM
Hey, Ghost,
Your posting is quite realistic. Miracle will not happen, regardless how much we want it. Sad but true.
The only (long but possible) way to achieve some results is massive attack of the media. Average American people should realize the problem of the legal immigrants and THEY should start pressing the lawmakers for resolution. In fact there is a very simple solution - every H1/L1 visa should be covered by a GC option, providing that the immigrant has covered all requirements. And the USCIS administration should be pushed to do their job. Now, cunningly, uncle Sam (I would better say the "Edited" people) allows white collar slaves to come to the US, but hides the GC when time comes.
To be honest, I really believe that in 10-15 years time this problem will not exist anymore. Reasons? Several: First, the main donoring countries of white collar slaves are in process of sharp development and soon this source of "blood transfusion" to US will start drying up. Second, with the aging baby-boomers the need of "blood transfusion" will increase. Third, the high flow of low qualified legal/illegal Latinos changes the fabric of the American society and turns it into a Latin-American country, with all negative consequences, so the need of high tech immigrant component will increase. There are more factors but these three are enough.
So, if we are patient, in 10-15 years time the USCIS administration will start sending invitation ads all over the world, inviting legals and we would become proud holders of GCs :-)
Yea-a-a, but I am not patient... And I am not keen to feed for decades the retired baby-boomers with my slave labor... Plan B...
Admin, you can delete/edit my post (as you sometimes do) but this will not change the reality. And the reality is that no one in this country gives a s..t about you and me. Sad but true :-)
Your posting is quite realistic. Miracle will not happen, regardless how much we want it. Sad but true.
The only (long but possible) way to achieve some results is massive attack of the media. Average American people should realize the problem of the legal immigrants and THEY should start pressing the lawmakers for resolution. In fact there is a very simple solution - every H1/L1 visa should be covered by a GC option, providing that the immigrant has covered all requirements. And the USCIS administration should be pushed to do their job. Now, cunningly, uncle Sam (I would better say the "Edited" people) allows white collar slaves to come to the US, but hides the GC when time comes.
To be honest, I really believe that in 10-15 years time this problem will not exist anymore. Reasons? Several: First, the main donoring countries of white collar slaves are in process of sharp development and soon this source of "blood transfusion" to US will start drying up. Second, with the aging baby-boomers the need of "blood transfusion" will increase. Third, the high flow of low qualified legal/illegal Latinos changes the fabric of the American society and turns it into a Latin-American country, with all negative consequences, so the need of high tech immigrant component will increase. There are more factors but these three are enough.
So, if we are patient, in 10-15 years time the USCIS administration will start sending invitation ads all over the world, inviting legals and we would become proud holders of GCs :-)
Yea-a-a, but I am not patient... And I am not keen to feed for decades the retired baby-boomers with my slave labor... Plan B...
Admin, you can delete/edit my post (as you sometimes do) but this will not change the reality. And the reality is that no one in this country gives a s..t about you and me. Sad but true :-)
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nashim
05-12 12:31 PM
June VB is out !
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4231.html
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4231.html
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shukla77
02-18 04:15 PM
Agree with mostly what you have said. Question still remains what causes people not to contribute even 20$ now while in the past they have contributed 50 , 100 or even more. Just something to think about.
I disagree. Changes in laws do not happen overnight and any efforts that core is making cannot be made public all the time. If they can get thousands of people the benefit of moving to EAD etc. then I am sure they are working behind the scenes to get more favorable changes done when the time is right. I have faith in their ability.
Moreover since I am not actively volunteering in any activities the least I can do is contribute. So I call on everyone to contribute for your cause - none of us is doing anyone a favor by contributing. We are DIRECTLY favoring us by making a contribution.
I disagree. Changes in laws do not happen overnight and any efforts that core is making cannot be made public all the time. If they can get thousands of people the benefit of moving to EAD etc. then I am sure they are working behind the scenes to get more favorable changes done when the time is right. I have faith in their ability.
Moreover since I am not actively volunteering in any activities the least I can do is contribute. So I call on everyone to contribute for your cause - none of us is doing anyone a favor by contributing. We are DIRECTLY favoring us by making a contribution.
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gcisadawg
08-10 11:31 PM
Congratulations !! Wish there was a "welcome kit" buddy ... but all you will receive is an I-797 ...welcome notice :)
It would be cool if there is a $1000 Gift card for Circuit city and a $1000 Gift card for Home depot along with the welcome notice. The newly minted PR can expedite his decision to buy a home that has been pending for the lack of GC and spend the gift cards to accessorize it!
-n4nature
It would be cool if there is a $1000 Gift card for Circuit city and a $1000 Gift card for Home depot along with the welcome notice. The newly minted PR can expedite his decision to buy a home that has been pending for the lack of GC and spend the gift cards to accessorize it!
-n4nature
ashshah
12-07 01:51 PM
Even I am waiting for my FP from TSC.
I was thinking , that maybe , because there are so many of us who have not received FP notices, should probably send a fax or e-mail to ombudsman as a group listing our receipt numbers or maybe just names and tell them the inconsistencies from their side in issuing the FP notices.
I have a good feeling that if the letter/email or fax goes as a group , then they may take some action.
Just a idea , any inputs would be appreciated.
I was thinking , that maybe , because there are so many of us who have not received FP notices, should probably send a fax or e-mail to ombudsman as a group listing our receipt numbers or maybe just names and tell them the inconsistencies from their side in issuing the FP notices.
I have a good feeling that if the letter/email or fax goes as a group , then they may take some action.
Just a idea , any inputs would be appreciated.
alterego
12-10 12:58 PM
Why don't posters on this forum move back to their home country and concentrate on making their home country great instead of slamming into someone else's country and just living off the wealth others have created?
The bottom line is that a SKIL act is not needed. Hundreds of thousands of American programmers have lost their job to the third world, both in outsourcing and insourcing of third world programmers who work for cheaper wages. There is absolutely no need for more foreigners here and no need for more green cards. Temporary workers are just that - temporary. If you are on a temporary visa, work your time, make some money for your family and head home when your time is up. Don't cry that we don't provide enough green cards when you knew what kind of visa you were on.
This guys ignorance is clear and not based in the reality of the world today. He and his kind think by keeping those like us out, they can influence the demand supply dynamics of the labour market, indeed shallow, hillbilly economics.
That would perhaps have been true 25 yrs ago when capital was relatively locked in.
The reality now is Capital is freely mobile even if skills are not (and that too is open to debate due to the Internet) and from the looks of the trade deficits, thats one battle america is losing. If the capital flows start reversing due to such things as immigration policies, they ought to prepare for a plummetting dollar, high interest rates, mega inflation, and shortages in commodities. That will make the movie Apocalypto seem like a gentle transition.
His kind do not realise that skilled immigrants are not a threat, they are anchors of capital/investment to this country so that their kind can continue to enjoy their current lifestyle.
Fortunately for this great land his ignorant/xenophobic kind are a vocal but ignored minority, the last election demonstrated this. Pity that the republican party which at its core has good policies, is infested by this group.
The bottom line is that a SKIL act is not needed. Hundreds of thousands of American programmers have lost their job to the third world, both in outsourcing and insourcing of third world programmers who work for cheaper wages. There is absolutely no need for more foreigners here and no need for more green cards. Temporary workers are just that - temporary. If you are on a temporary visa, work your time, make some money for your family and head home when your time is up. Don't cry that we don't provide enough green cards when you knew what kind of visa you were on.
This guys ignorance is clear and not based in the reality of the world today. He and his kind think by keeping those like us out, they can influence the demand supply dynamics of the labour market, indeed shallow, hillbilly economics.
That would perhaps have been true 25 yrs ago when capital was relatively locked in.
The reality now is Capital is freely mobile even if skills are not (and that too is open to debate due to the Internet) and from the looks of the trade deficits, thats one battle america is losing. If the capital flows start reversing due to such things as immigration policies, they ought to prepare for a plummetting dollar, high interest rates, mega inflation, and shortages in commodities. That will make the movie Apocalypto seem like a gentle transition.
His kind do not realise that skilled immigrants are not a threat, they are anchors of capital/investment to this country so that their kind can continue to enjoy their current lifestyle.
Fortunately for this great land his ignorant/xenophobic kind are a vocal but ignored minority, the last election demonstrated this. Pity that the republican party which at its core has good policies, is infested by this group.
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